• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    3 months ago

    Safe, sure. Efficient? Not even close.

    It’s far, far more expensive than renewable energy. It also takes far, far longer to build a plant. Too long to meet 2030 targets even if you started building today. And in most western democracies you wouldn’t even be able to get anything done by 2040 if you also add in political processes, consultation, and design of the plant.

    There’s a reason the current biggest proponents of nuclear energy are people and parties who previously were open climate change deniers. Deciding to go to nuclear will give fossil fuel companies maximum time to keep doing their thing. Companies which made their existence on the back of fossil fuels, like mining companies and plant operators also love it, because it doesn’t require much of a change from their current business model.

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      3 months ago

      Australian politicians have been arguing about nuclear energy for decades, and with whats going on now, petty distracting squabbling while state governments are gutting public infrastructure

      The most frustrating thing is the antinuclear party is obviously fine with nuclear power, and nuclear armaments, just look at the aukus submarines

      labors cries about the dangers to our communities and the environment are obviously disingenuous, or they wouldnt be setting a green light for the billionaire robber barons to continue tearing oil and minerals out of the ground (they promise to restore the land for real-sies this time)

      Anyway, a nuclear power plant runs a steam turbine and will never be more than what, 30% efficient?

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        3 months ago

        Pumped hydro? Or one of the many other non battery storage options, or just over production

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          3 months ago

          How viable is pumped hydro? It would be good if feasible, but last I checked, there were not enough places where you can install them.

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            3 months ago

            No, you’re right. It’s not an option for everyone. Which is why I mentioned that there are many other solutions which are similar and over production which is simpler and cheaper

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                3 months ago

                What? You don’t have Google? Options I know of (other than batteries and pumped hydro) : Compressed Air Energy Storage, Thermal Energy Storage, Fly wheels, Hydrogen, Supercapacitors, Gravitational Storage

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                  3 months ago

                  The fact that you descend into complete science fiction should give you pause for thought. I doubt it will, but please think about how fantastical your proposed solutions are - “a massive lake of molten salt under every city” (I actually like that one!)…

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                    3 months ago

                    Given you’re making up things I never said I can only imagine what you’re respinding to? Where did a massive lake of molten salt under every city come from?

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                  3 months ago
                  1. It’s not easy to go over all options.
                  2. Many of these are largely theoretical, or for temporary storage. For instance, I don’t think fluwheels can store energy for months.
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                    3 months ago

                    Are you proposing that the sun may not shine and the wind not blow anywhere at all for months?