• doctordevice@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    I feel like this speech was unnecessary. It only made me feel worse. I need the Democrats, and especially Biden, to stop soapboxing about “saving democracy” and “presidents are not kings” when they literally just skipped the democratic part of choosing a nominee for it to be handed down like a crown.

    In fact, I’d feel a lot better if they apologized for it and told us how they were going to stop it from happening in the future.

    Edit: wow, y’all really freak out at any suggestion of wrongdoing by the Democrats. I’d suggest looking backwards at how we ended up with the current primary process. 1968 Democratic primaries. The Democrats recognized the problem then and introduced reform, why is that such an outlandish thing to ask for now?

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      2 months ago

      The people that keep telling us that we need to save democracy by electing Democrats just appointed someone that has never won a primary, has never won a single electoral vote, came in sixth place in her own state.

      Presidents are selected not elected

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      …do you actually believe that’s what’s happening, or are you just too naive to accept any progress that isn’t the full scope of your ideals?

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        2 months ago

        That is exactly what’s happening. The only ones that are ever going to gain any influence within the party are the ones that have vowed to uphold the status quo. The status quo that has been built by generations prior.

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            2 months ago

            What a weirdly sycophantic way of praising what is arguably the most corrupt House, Senate, and Supreme court this country has seen since the robber baron days.

            I’m interested in how you square the circle between this fantastic view of American exceptionalism with the clear statement that voters have made that they absolutely DO NOT WANT politicians like Biden or Clinton leading them, and basically stand in disgust of institutions like the House and Senate, where House members are clearly using their positions to increase their personal wealth.

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              It seems that your tribe and my tribe are not the same.

              64000 people just donated over $120 million to the inherent nominee in 3 days, me being one of them. You call that corruption whereas I call it hope.

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                2 months ago

                You see what we got last time a presidential candidate talked about hope. We got fucked and corporations got richer

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                If you need to be a cheerleader to belive things, thats fine. I also donated. I also signed up to volunteer like I have for progressive and democratic campaigns for the previous 12 years.

                But I also need to have clear eyes when it comes to the political context I find myself in. We need to pick up the ball that the Democrats dropped by insisting on Biden for as long as they did, drive it down field, and put it in the goal. But I’m not going to live a lie about who the Democrats are, and who they have been, for literally decades. I can’t afford that. The cost of living in a fantasy about who the DNC is, how they manage their party, and how they use different demographics of voters only when its convenient for them is simply too high. I’ve needed them to be a better party for years and they keep choosing to not live up to who we, the voters, need them to be.

                Democrats need to do better and they can’t keep relying on marginalized demographics and minorities to come in here and save their asses every time they fuck up (like they’ve been doing with this entire primary where they just about handed the whole damn thing to Trump).

                I can chew gum and walk: I can both support the nominee and dial the numbers, and also have a criticism of a party that treats its voters with the level if disrespect it has.