• Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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    Despite his efforts, Dolan’s message did not gain enough traction. His campaign, funded largely by personal loans, couldn’t match Ocasio-Cortez’s $8 million war chest.

    You people are living in an oligarchy and “who has more money for this season” being a perfectly normal news bit outside of popular sports is completely insane.

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      You realize that “you people” includes you, correct?

      Or are the mega rich treated just like everyone else where you are?

      If so, where is this magical land of fairness?

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          3 months ago

          Eh… There are a variety of end-runs around this mechanism.

          Hiring politicians on as lobbyists or allowing friends and family to sit on private run boards and trusts can create a back channel for money to flow into a politician’s pockets. Public money can be funneled into private profits for which the supporting politicians are also stockholders. And politicians can receive discounted/free services from friendly private sector constituencies. FOX News, the classic example, is a multi-billion dollar network dedicated to running Republican-friendly media. But when corporate lobbyists and political strategists can be found everywhere from the boards of NPR/PBS to the guest chairs of MSNBC to the editorial rooms of the WaPo/WSJ/NYT, there’s really no safe spaces left.

          You can mitigate the direct “bag of cash for favors” effect that, say, John Boehner cutting tobacco lobbyist checks on the floor of the House has produced in the past. But you can’t keep public sector administrators from finding ways to receive kickbacks via private sector channels unless you completely divorce these institutions.

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            Eh… There are a variety of end-runs around this mechanism.

            There are any number of hypothetical end-runs around just about anything you can think of, that doesn’t make protections, mechanisms, controls, or safeties useless.

            In the US, political bribery is nearly 100% legal. I’d rather have some hoops for corrupt officials to jump through. We don’t even make them break a sweat in this country.

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              There are any number of hypothetical end-runs

              Not even hypothetical. We just had the SCOTUS kick down the door on legal bribery in Snyder v United States.

              I’d rather have some hoops for corrupt officials to jump through

              I mean, if we’ve got a magic lamp I can do better than a few hoops. But the system is of the corrupt, by the corrupt, for the corrupt.

              At some point, you’re forced to recognized the farce of democracy at work.

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                3 months ago

                IIRC, people were talking about places in this thread that aren’t the US.

                As stated, political bribery in the US is nearly 100% legal. You can even study it in school and make a career out of it.

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                    Sure, but that doesn’t mean that even discussing real or hypothetical measures to reign in corruption is inherently worthless because you can sometimes get around some of them.

                    I hate the US “either we solve everything, or nothing is worth doing” mindset that’s pervasive in this country, and the only reason I responded is because you’re providing a good example of it.