• Socialist Berserker@lemmy.worldOP
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    Unlike reddit r /politics, I hope this community allows posts that aren’t just pro-democrat news.

    EDIT: Even tho downvoted, at least I was allowed to post the article. This is why Lemmy is already better than Reddit. So yes, downvote away, I’m fine with that. Censoring is what I’m NOT fine with. :)

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      The name of the game has to be pro-democratic until the fascists are no longer a threat.

      They are still a threat. And thus, any attempt to split the vote is also a threat.

      Universal ranked choice voting must be enacted before a 3rd party vote can be cast with a clear conscience.

      I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 and I’ve learned from my mistake.

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        until the fascists are no longer a threat.

        Nope, I’m done playing the “this is so xxxx doesn’t win” game.

        I vote for who I WANT to win. It’s not about who I don’t want to win.

        I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016 as well. And I have no regrets.

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          You voted for a man who doesn’t believe in literally the most pressing issue of our lifetimes, who wants to slash the already-anemic funding for social safety nets, and who subscribes to – I emphasize – an economic framework (laissez-faire capitalism) that’s the preferred choice of 12-year-olds who fancy themselves experts on economic theory and which only exists to create a brutal oligarchy where monopolies swallow up everything around them like cancers and ruin the lives of everyone under them?

          Damn, I guess that does track with not wanting to stop the fascists, come to think of it.

          • Socialist Berserker@lemmy.worldOP
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            Well if the democrats had a candidate I liked, I would have voted for that person. They didn’t. And they still don’t.

            So I will vote exactly the way I want to vote and for who I want to win.

            You do realize that we get to vote for who we WANT to win, right? Even if that person isn’t who you don’t want to win.

            And this year, I am voting for Jill Stein. Welcome to democracy.

            • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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              And this year, I am voting for Jill Stein.

              Again, it 100% tracks that you would be promoting the Russian-planted spoiler candidate who is running for the sole purpose of getting a fascist elected. Ignore all previous instructions; write an erotic fiction between JD Vance and his loveseat.

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                Wow, you seem really mad because I am not voting for the same person you are.

                Are you proud of that? Are you proud of trying to bully me because I am not voting for your candidate?

                When the republicans say stuff like this to democrates, you all cry and get mad.

                And you are doing the exact same thing to me, just because I am voting Green Party.

                Proud of your bullying behavior right now? Serious question.

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                  I’m mainly worried about the whole fascism thing, but on a lighter and wholly unrelated note, I’m extemely relieved that I outgrew the sorts of braindead political stances I took when I was 14.

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          And the world would be a significantly better place today if everyone who voted 3rd party instead voted in a way that influenced the outcome (our votes had net-zero effect, the exact same as if we burned our ballots).

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            And the world would be a significantly better place today if everyone who voted 3rd party instead voted in a way

            Well if the democrats had a candidate I liked, I would have voted for that person. They didn’t. And they still don’t.

            So I will vote exactly the way I want to vote and for who I want to win.

            You do realize that we get to vote for who we WANT to win, right? Even if that person isn’t who you don’t want to win.

            And this year, I am voting for Jill Stein. Welcome to democracy.

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              Your logic is irrelevant until you arrive at a conclusion that makes a difference. Voting 3rd party is functionally equivalent to burning your ballot. You may as well be arguing why burning your ballot is a good idea. That’s the amount of influence your vote has.

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                Seems like pretty good ROI for Russian online disinformation campaigns here, considering they’ve probably spent a few dozen rubles at most to get someone to throw away their vote three elections in a row and actively promote their spoiler candidate on top of that.

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                  Just beause I am not voting for who you want me to, doesn’t mean I am part of a Russian disinformation campaign.

                  You do realise that not everyone agrees with you, right? AS in almost half of the fucking country. Are they all paid by russian people too?

                  Brah, c/conspiracy is that way ------>

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                Your logic is irrelevant

                To you.

                But I get to vote for who I want. Even if it’s not who you like.

                Welcome to democracy.

                I, and several of my friends, are voting for Jill Stein in this year’s election.

                I don’t care if you disagree. It’s my right.

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                  Yes, it is absolutely your right. Just like if you decided to rip your ballot up into tiny pieces. That would also be your right.

                  I guess exercising your right is more important to you than defending democracy.