Ukraine attacked Moscow on Wednesday with at least 11 drones that were shot down by air defences in what Russian officials called one of the biggest drone strikes on the capital since the war in Ukraine began in February 2022.

The war, largely a grinding artillery and drone battle across the fields, forests and villages of eastern Ukraine, escalated on Aug. 6 when Ukraine sent thousands of soldiers over the border into Russia’s western Kursk region.

For months, Ukraine has also fought an increasingly damaging drone war against the refineries and airfields of Russia, the world’s second largest oil exporter, though major drone attacks on the Moscow region - with a population of over 21 million - have been rarer.

Russia’s defence ministry said its air defences destroyed a total of 45 drones over Russian territory, including 11 over the Moscow region, 23 over the border region of Bryansk, six over the Belgorod region, three over the Kaluga region and two over the Kursk region.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    There are valid military targets in Moscow. However the more important part is to instill fear in the populace. People who are afraid of being killed are far more useful a tool to Ukraine than actually killing them. It’s that feeling of impending doom, that this time they might come for you. Them those scared people are a problem for the Russian government, but without pissing them off enough to override their fear.

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      29 days ago

      So terrorism. You want to literally terrorize civilians for military gain. What is wrong with you?

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        29 days ago

        Have you seen what they did to Ukraine?

        It’s counter-terrorism.

        You can’t let terrorists get away with their terror, the fear must be repaid 10-fold or it will never end.

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          29 days ago

          I’m not sure that fire-with-fire strategy is the most effective. At least historically it seems to have mixed results. I think going after their economy makes the most sense: sanctions, refinery attacks, sabotage; hit them in the wallet, break their capacity to continue the carnage.

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            29 days ago

            It works if you can actually hit the people who attacked you.

            The more layers of abstraction between a populace and its government/army, the less likely “retaliation” against the populace will actually succeed as retaliation.

            This is basically the problem with the “Israel/Palestine” conflict. People want to think of it as two parties in conflict but it is not. It is four parties:

            • IDF
            • Israeli citizens
            • Hamas
            • Palestinian civilians

            That four-player nature to the game makes the traditional tit-for-tat strategy break down, which is why the conflict doesn’t end.

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              29 days ago

              You’re missing the settlers and their ultranationalist allies.

              They’re basically the mirror to Hamas.

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          29 days ago

          Dude counter-terrorism is the countering of terrorist plots. It does not mean terrorism as retaliation.

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            29 days ago

            It absolutely does, no better way to end terrorism than to make the terrorists afraid of committing acts due to the retaliation.

            Lot of afghans still look up in fear when they hear a noise on a clear day.

            • intensely_human@lemm.ee
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              29 days ago

              Arguments about the utility of any given strategy do not determine the definition of the term “counter terrorism”.