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If the DNC is too conservative, then she is inversely too liberal for the DNC. And she isnt, it’s not a monolith. She would be more than welcome in the more liberal half of the government.

If she wants to change it, she should join and do so. She might not succeed. That’s how Democracy works. She’d be more likely to succeed though.

I’ve never heard a single position of hers that is too liberal. Even Andrew Yang was given his time to make his case. Voters said no.

The problem is that she’s not actually popular enough with voters to get elected, let alone popular enough in the liberal half of the country to get nominated. She’s saying the game is rigged because she doesn’t actually have a chance.

The game actually favors her. RCV would help a moderate like Manchin get elected.

If Jill Stein thought she had a chance, she’d join the Democratic Party and actually campaign to win. She’s just running for the self-indulgence despite hurting civil rights and climate initiatives.

They have a shot, by joining the Democratic Party. The same way that progressives join liberals, make their voice heard, and let the voters decide.

Any third party presidential candidate that aligns mostly (or entirely) with one of the other parties but doesn’t join them is at best chicken shit. If you can’t convince half of the population which is closest to you politically, you’re not going to convince the other half.

The only way a third party candidate would even theoretically work is if they were moderate (think Joe Manchin) where they would appeal to moderates from both parties.

Someone like Jill Stein has no business running outside of the Democratic Party. If she can’t convince the Dems, she’s not convincing the rest of the country. Running as a Dem and convincing 26% of voters is her best road to the presidency, but she knows she’ll never get that much support.

Generally speaking , I don’t think of npr when people complain about mainstream media.

Also, a couple reports aren’t enough of a warning for the general population. The media does not do a good job of covering problems with the right-wing.

“The Big Lie” is one of the few examples of them actually taking a right-wing issue seriously. And that’s because it was a direct attack on themselves. Otherwise it feels like they sanitize reporting as much as possible to appear unbiased.

I just read the letter she signed. I honestly didn’t see anything egregious.

Hamas is bad.
Palestine is good.
Hostages need to be freed.
Israel and Palestine need to both be free and live in peace.

What am I supposed to be upset about?

Legion is my favorite show, period. She’s phenomenal in it.

I support it. They have a job to let viewers know that the radical information is not true, and they should not take it as valid information to get worked up over.

It’s the difference between Trump sounding like a maniac vs exposing a controversy. They don’t need to stop him from sounding like a maniac. They just need to clarify that he is, in fact, a maniac.

I respect that viewpoint. That was the most famous example. But I know people generally thought she was mean, crass, or shrill because she would call Trump names (accurately) during debates.

Being aggressive is cathartic for us who pay attention. But swing voters are inherently easier to push away and are inherently not as “sold” on Trump being a national crisis and don’t like being told what to think.

But I’m just an armchair analyst. So maybe I’m way off.

Yes, 100%. It happened with Hillary. You remember the controversy of her deplorable comment, which was statistically factual?

Moderate Republicans might show up for Trump.
Left leaning centrists might stay home.
Swing voters who are friendly to Trump’s economy might “both sides” their personalities.
Some centrists just give Trump a pass on his personality. But Democrats don’t get the same leeway.

Unfortunately these are the voters that can swing the election.

Unfortunately, I think if she’s too aggressive or mean then it will turn off a lot of swing voters. It’s smart to err on the side of caution.

We got F-bombs in the comments of the Harris-Trump post!

If they ever get to the words “promote the general Welfare”, they’ll ban it in schools for promoting socialism.

There’s a reason they stop reading the Constitution at “We the people…” and celebrate the Confederacy.

The duopoly does represent the people. People suck sometimes. The Democratic Party is the method for people like her to push change. The Democratic Party gives her cause MORE power by consolidating efforts

If there was overwhelming support, even just among liberals, Bernie would have won in 2016 or 2020.

Nobody said to ONLY do the bare minimum. I said you’re doing less than the bare minimum.

I’m thinking you’re being intentionally dense.

If you’re not doing the bare minimum, your opinion literally does not matter.

Also, nobody said bare minimum is enough. It’s the bare minimum, by definition.

Frustration isn’t a reason to give in to a fantasy.

You want a party that will support those initiatives? You have one. It’s the Democratic Party. If they don’t have enough support now to get that shit done, they’re definitely not going to when Republicans take over.

You may not like it, but Dems (specifically liberals and progressives) need more power to enact real change. If you’re working against that, you’re working against your own goals to make yourself feel better.

It’s not a false choice. It’s reality. You can either choose to oppose Trump or you can decide it’s fine.

To be clear, I’m in a red state that has been directly impacted by Trump’s judicial picks and his MAGA extremism. I take personal offense against me and my family when people don’t do the bare minimum to keep Trump out of power.