Photocopy of a photocopy is my go-to metaphor for model collapse.

That doesn’t prevent power hungry mods from modding hundreds of communities, or mods or admins from enshittifying the most popular communities (or whole instances) with absurd rules or misinformation bots, or any other of the abuses that were rampant on reddit and even more rampant here… sure, the users can migrate to some other community or instance, but most won’t (and migrating instances is significantly more work than simply unsubscribing from one subreddit and subscribing to another).

Looked like the least worst alternative to reddit (which was the least worst replacement for what the internet used to be before reddit, and facebook, and the like, killed it).

Turns out it’s mostly reddit reposts (often by bots, which is ironic since the originals were also reddit reposts posted by bots) and US politics garbage, and even more susceptible than Reddit to power hungry mods and echo chambers.

I guess I’m just addicted to doomscrolling. Which is almost as depressing as the fact that this inane crumb of utterly useless and purposeless garbage is by far the least worst furuncle in the rotting bot infested corpse of the internet.

No. The fediverse is just more of the same mindless gargling and regurgitation of mainstream media excrement that the internet has become, but federated.

It lacks the creativity, originality, experimentation, wonder, sheer life of the old internet.

It’s just as dead, enshittified, and riddled with misinformation bots as everything else.

Scat singing, is the one you’re referring to, though personally I’d go with Ella Fitzgerald as an example everyone should recognise.

Scat fetish is the one everyone else is thinking about in this context, given Trump’s tendency to always have a copious amount of the required materials on hand or, as it were, diaper.

It’s not only body odour. It’s a whole cacophony of stenches of various origins.

No, no, the other scat.

if you ask it again, it again feeds you the wrong information

Well, it’s a LLM, they can’t learn anything without rebuilding the whole model from scratch, which I wouldn’t exactly call learning anyway… all they “know” is what word is most likely to follow a certain sequence of words according to their model.
Any other facts or information are completely inconsequential for their operation and results.

Being against LLMs being sold as AI (or as useful for anything practical) is not being against AI.

LLMs have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with AI, other than being sold as if they did.

Japan isn’t big on change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0r930Sn_8

No, I’m not db0, but thanks for the compliment. 😅

I’m way too lazy (and broke) to set up and admin a Lemmy instance.

We’re talking about LLMs. They’re useless for most practical applications by definition.

And when they’re not entirely useless (basically, autocomplete) they’re orders of magnitude less cost-effective than older almost equivalent alternatives, so they’re effectively useless at that, too.

They’re fancy extremely costly toys without any practical use, that thanks to the short-sighted greed of the scammers selling them will soon become even more useless due to model collapse.

If they still profit from it, no.

Open models made by nonprofit organisations, listing their sources, not including anything from anyone who requests it not to be included (with robots.txt, for instance), and burdened with a GPL-like viral license that prevents the models and their results from being used for profit… that’d probably be fine.

If you do crime big enough, it becomes good.

No, no it doesn’t.

It might become legal, or tolerated, or the laws might become unenforceable.

But that doesn’t make it good, on the contrary, it makes it even worse.

OS vendors aren’t selling¹ what users copy into the clipboard.

¹ Well, Microsoft probably is, especially with that recall bullshit, and I don’t trust Google and Apple not to do it either… but if any of them is doing it they should get fined into bankruptcy.

It’s an LLM. Odds are it’s hallucinating the sources and they don’t even exist.

Know what does compile sources for you which are guaranteed to exist and be related to what you’re looking for…? A good old not LLM infected search engine.

If my plumber replaces their wrench for a rabid gerbil claiming it’ll be just as good I’m definitely changing plumbers.

The good thing about that is that this kills the LLMs, since new models can only be trained on this LLM generated gibberish, which makes the gibberish they’ll generate even more garbled and useless, and so on, until every model you try to train can only produce random useless unintelligible garbage.

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