If she’s serious she’ll be a historically great president. But if it’s PR. Not so much.
We’ll see when the DNC starts. They can script all they want. But that will tell us the story. Who they invite. What they talk about. It’s all theater of course. But it’ll act as a barometer of where the politics are.
The DNC is first and foremost a corp. And I don’t trust corps. Don’t trust them any further than I trust Blackrock or Vanguard.
They can’t collect donations if everyone is broke. They need people to have disposable income. And shit has got so bad now. They have to be feeling it.
They can collect donations just fine. It was big, huge donors saying “I won’t give the democrats one red nickel if Biden doesn’t step down” that helped get Biden to concede his candidacy.
It was a combination of things. It was also the lack of voter enthusiasm risking down ballot races.
I gotta say, if it’s all a PR act, it’s dumb as fuck. it might work for this election but it will then disillusion millions of young voters permanently if she can’t follow though on these promises, leading to a huge loss (or worse, migration) of young Democrat voters.
Wouldn’t be the first time.
I firmly believe the DNC would rather lose and fundraise off the fear of what the Repubs do.
And I firmly believe you’re full of shit.
You can deny history all you like. But that doesn’t change it.
History, as in the past… You’re almost there…
lol. Words are not deeds.
You got that right. Talk is cheap. Presidential candidates are basically used car salesman.
Lmao the Democratic and Republican party are both bought and paid for by corporate money. I wholeheartedly and unabashedly support Harris/Walz but you can fuck right off with this stupid shit that Harris somehow is immune to the reality of our political financing structure (namely, megadonors, corporates, and PACs)
“both sides”.
“No sides”
“You can fuck right off with x” is a turn of phrase I can’t wait to see fade out of common use
I’m sorry, but I’ma keep calling it twitter. You can fuck right off with x
Try being funny next time
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yay now our below living wages will go a micro bit further
let us celebrate the Democrats who do everything they can to fight against the Republicans
If you got the 2% micro growth, you’re actually not in the starvation wages bracket. If you’re in the 13% growth bracket and you’re upset that it’s not more (which, I get), you gotta talk to the people who set up the 7% inflation in 2021 and 2022 that ate up all your wage gains from Biden’s policies the last few years - not blame the people who got you 32% higher wages that then got eaten up by the Covid inflation.
And they’re pulling those numbers out of their ass as if raising a minimum wage to something that is still an unlivable wage is progress.
What is that, if not progress?
If the thesis is “let’s keep going we need way more”, the great. If the thesis is “let’s shit on the team that achieved 30% higher wages and imply they’re the same as the team that actively wants to undo all of that and leave us with just the 20% inflation and no higher wages” then I will respectfully disagree.
That team didn’t do shit for higher wages, until there is a federal livable minimum wage, they haven’t done shit.
What do you believe happened to working class wages between 2020 and now?
What did the Biden administration do that brought increased wages about? Which specific policy of his do you credit with the increase in wages?
The two big things I’m aware of are (a) firing Peter Robb on Biden’s very first day in office, and replacing him with a staff at the NLRB that was actual labor people (b) raising about 2 trillion dollars via increased corporate taxes and then spending about half of that on programs designed to create domestic manufacturing jobs
(Oh also the answer to what happened to working class wages since 2020 is they went up by 12%, inflation adjusted)
The role of the Democrats has never been to fight Republicans. It is to prevent leftist movements and organizations from ever gaining any political influence or power in the country.
You gotta talk to the post-1968 activist left about how well it worked out for them pursuing that vision. That’s how we got Reagan; that’s how the “single income family with one guy with a high school diploma supporting a house and good middle-class life that’s unrecognizable to most people today” went all the fuck away.
Again, if you want to go further than the fuckin Democrats that sounds great. If letting the Republicans defeat the Democrats is a key element of that strategy, you’re gonna have to break down the details to me because to me it doesn’t make a single bit of fucking sense.
We got Reagan because capitalists wanted Reagan. The ones that supported people like Milton Friedman were the ones that wanted wanted Reagan in office.
Yeah just like how Biden’s gonna seal the deal witch Israel tomorrow.
I’m kind of annoyed more people aren’t offed by the fact that the DNC didn’t run a primary because we had at least 3-4 better candidates lined up, and Kamala wouldn’t have even reached close just like last time.
I think I’m just gonna start labeling this articles “hopium”
3-4 better candidates
Who are these people and why do you say better? Kamala Harris polled better than literally any other person including Bernie Sanders, Gavin Newsome, etc etc all the people who are usually presented as other options.
Kamala Harris polled better than literally any other person including Bernie Sanders, Gavin Newsome, etc etc all the people who are usually presented as other options.
What poll bruh, there was no primary. That’s literally why they ran a “roll call” to gg easy their chosen candidate.
These polls. Run it back to January and tell me which poll has someone other than Biden or Harris leading. There is one! I’ll wait for you to find it and tell me who it was that won it.
There were some others, that weren’t focused on the “democratic primary” category. I’ll also wait for you to find one, and tell me which one has someone other than Biden / Harris winning, and who it was.
I personally have no issue with Harris as the nominee, the process that got her there, and she has my vote. But I’m not sure polls that are that hypothetical are worth very much when it wasn’t a fully serious primary but more a rubber stamp on the incumbent.
If Biden would have decided not to run last year and let there be a full primary those polls don’t really convince me that Harris would have been the nominee. (For one thing there would have been actually campaigns by her and by alternatives.)
What happened to the other person?
I’ve noticed that this happens a lot. It’s “what poll?” “this poll” and then all of a sudden some other person jumps in with a new line of questioning. Sort of a multi-person version of Never Play Defense.
The second part of the question which I sent to the other person dealt very directly with the point that you’re making. There was a pretty extensive process of polling during the time when it was trying to find people to thrust into place as a substitute for Biden before he withdrew. They did a bunch of matchups of various random name-familiar Democrats.
I absolutely refuse to accept the logic that it would have been better to have a month of infighting about who the candidate should be, as opposed to unifying behind a single strong candidate who was leading in the polls. Who would you rather have had?
What happened to the other person?
I’ve noticed that this happens a lot. It’s “what poll?” “this poll” and then all of a sudden some other person jumps in with a new line of questioning.
I have no clue. That’s kind of a fundamental part of this format of social media. Multiple people can converse with different viewpoints.
I absolutely refuse to accept the logic that it would have been better to have a month of infighting about who the candidate should be, as opposed to unifying behind a single strong candidate who was leading in the polls. Who would you rather have had?
I don’t think it would’ve been good either. Like I said:
I personally have no issue with Harris as the nominee, the process that got her there, and she has my vote.
I would’ve preferred this whole mess have been avoided so there could have been actual primary during the normal primary timeframe. Maybe Harris would’ve came out on top, maybe not. Without any campaigning I’m not going to take any of the “literally anyone besides who is actually running” polls from the primary season seriously.
They keep telling us this is the democracy they need to save. A presidential candidate that’s never won a single primary, electoral vote, and came in last in her own state is suddenly the nominee?
The parties are private entities and can set whatever rules they like for selecting a nominee. That said, this was technically still the same representative democratic process. Voters selected the delegates (which are bound on the first round voting only), but Biden dropped out and released his delegates to vote whichever way they wanted.
Certainly I would’ve preferred for Biden to drop out last year and have had a full primary. But you can’t make someone accept the nomination when they don’t want it, and there are rules and a process for the already selected delegates to vote for someone else.
I don’t love how it played out either but it was the delegates we voted for that elected kamala as our nominee. It was our representative democracy at play in a less than ideal situation when biden dropped out at an awkward time. And kind of the point of a vice president.
Its this or the guy that said he’d be dictator on day one and that no one would ever have to vote again if he is elected. You decide what you want to vote for.