So say we all.
SO SAY WE ALL
Reminder that this shit isn’t new with him
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/09/1097517470/trump-esper-book-defense-secretary
Alex Jones fixated on Posse Comitatus at the tail end of W’s second term and Obama’s first term, melding it with the idea that FEMA was ready to incarcerate millions of Americans in concentration camps after taking away hundreds of millions of guns, and turn cities into walled off, controlled ingress/egress zones akin to a prequel to Escape From New York.
And now here we are a decade+ after that, with him having been on the ground for and whipping people into an actual insurrection, supporting a fascist who seems to want to actually do things approaching fairly close to his fever dreams of years past, invoking what was once a huge piece of his ‘plan for total enslavement’ or whatever he called it.
It’s the same way with all the preppers and the people stockpiling an arsenal because “government comin’ to get ya”. For the most part, these are the people that will gleefully take up arms against their own countrymen if they are given the go-ahead from a fascist government. They won’t fight against a fascist government.
There are more civilian owned guns than people in the US, and yeah, a lot of it is from basically people that are building a personal armory.
Hell, there’s a whole commonly repeated mantra amongst many guntubers that ‘one is none and two is one’ that is basically a thought stopping cliche that also shames people into always purchasing a backup gun roughly equivalent to their primary ‘just in case’.
When it comes to the people with personal armories… I guarantee that the vast majority (not literally all, but most) of those kinds of people are such assholes, such antisocial totalitarians in their personal lives that they either arent going to have any friends to use all those extra guns, or their ‘friends’ will just take one and leave after armory man is an asshole long enough.
Functionally, all these goobers have done is made the equivalent of loot boxes or mini dungeons with guns as the prize in an actual SHTF scenario.
Yeah, Alex Jones was actually right on some of the weirdo extremist things he was claiming being planned, it’s just that he was part of those plans to begin with.
Once again, it was all projection.
One of the problems with having your “truth tellers” rely on commercial sales to get the news out. Jones went from a guy who would mainstream generic fringe views of every conceivable quality to a guy who exclusively dealt in far-right conspiracy theories because that’s where the money was at.
Joe Rogan is on a similar arc. The longer he churns out episodes, the more fascist his guests and his “common sense” views become. And then you look at his advertisers…
I doubt it
He’s made his intentions to do shit like this clear on many occasions, and has built a cult of yes men around him. So either you’re oblivious, lying, or misinformed.
I hate Trump with a fucking passion. But he was president for 4 years and did nothing like that. Why didn’t he do it then? Why would he wait to be reelected instead of doing it when he actually had power?
He couldn’t do a lot of what he wanted because he was unprepared. He didn’t expect to win. This time, a bunch of MAGAs sat down and planned out how he can do this and a lot more. It’s in the Project 2025 document.
National guard maybe but the main military branches of the US cannot be used under posse comitatus, right?
It is every soldiers duty to defy illegal orders.
Not legally but when has that stopped him?
January 6th.
That was people. They could have bowed to the mob and declared Trump the winner. The military was actually prevented from deploying.
When listening to american generals speak they are usually wise men who know a lot about a lot, including the constitution, racism, dictators and such. Maybe it’s the optimist in me, but I have a hard time believing they would follow Trump down that path.
The good news is the officer corps isn’t trying to follow his illegal orders.
The bad news is the DOJ and federal agents proved willing during the BLM protests.
They’ve also made it clear they want to cut military and veteran benefits. It’s surprising they think the military will be absolutely loyal to them if they try to power grab and go full dictator.
I was a medic in the AF - it was a pretty even split of red and blue. Air Force medical is probably the bluest slice of the military there is, so overall there’s definitely a strong lean red, but there’s this weird notion of absolution when it comes to the military’s political loyalty. Worse case scenario, Trump gets elected and attempts to ‘execute order 66’ …the military will implode on itself with infighting, and my money’s on one of the troops will take an opportunistic shot at him in accordance with their Oath of Enlistment’s promise to defend the constitution against domestic enemies. Officers and civilian federal employees oath has the same language.
Edit - Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone ‘supports the troops’ they’ll vote blue.
I’m currently in the AF. Can confirm, we’re a snapshot of the country. Not some frothing red dog.
The military isn’t a democracy: If the top of the hierarchy is following Donald’s orders, everyone else will be too…
Look up duty to disobey.
That’s just propaganda, not how it operates in practice…
If he loses and tries to claim a stolen election, project 2025 promising a bloodbath will not go well for any of them. Especially since Trump continues to disrespect military personnel at every turn.
I know there are some maga nuts in the ranks, but last I heard most generals have spoken out against the Trumpet crumpet.
Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone ‘supports the troops’ they’ll vote blue.
Wow! I was expecting a link to one incident but there was a list of many, many unrelated incidents. He really does hate the military.
Thanks for the link!
Edit - Also, Donald Trump fucking hates us. If anyone ‘supports the troops’ they’ll vote blue.
Yeah, but nobody who goes out of their way to advertise that they “support the troops” actually gives a shit about them. It’s always been jingoistic performative nonsense.
There’s a model for this. Basically, the reason you see dictatorships having a Republican Guard. Those guys are the loyalists that will do anything for the dictator and they get sinecure positions and help if they’re hurt. The rest of the military is lucky to get rations because the dictator is worried about other people using them to end their reign.
The total transition would take awhile but Trying was already effectively using the Department of Justice and federal agents to run a Republican Guard during the BLM protests.
The military is filled with the most loyal beaten dogs in America. Master can beat them as much as he wants and they’ll never bite.
The “if” of his election fades more everytime he speaks
Just don’t get complacent. Vote. Help others vote. Drag them to the voting place if you need to. Promise them cake. Whatever it takes.
And then you find out the response from Kamala ends up being “Harris has ‘made clear’ she will turn the U.S. military loose on Trump if elected (and causes a second insurrection): NYT”
